In Texarkana, school integration was approached quietly, because they didn't want to have the problems like those taking place in Little Rock. That didn't mean there weren't problems. In Little Rock, with the integration of Central High, that didn't happen quietly, so here they tried to avoid those problems. I was at Grambling at the time, and we were doing things for the civil rights movement there. We were hitting the streets like a lot of colleges did, so we started going to other campuses and other cities.